{"id":640,"date":"2010-07-23T09:06:22","date_gmt":"2010-07-22T21:06:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/?p=640"},"modified":"2010-07-23T09:13:19","modified_gmt":"2010-07-22T21:13:19","slug":"its-just-my-opinion-of-course","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/posts\/640\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s Just My Opinion, Of Course&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">[Estimated Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes]<\/span><\/span><p>Simon Kissel &#8211; of <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/crosskylix.untergrund.net\/\">CrossKylix<\/a><\/strong> fame and <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/delphiroadmap.untergrund.net\/\">Alternative Roadmap<\/a><\/strong> infamy &#8211; apparently recently re-appeared in the Delphi forums. \u00a0I say apparently because <a href=\"http:\/\/delphihaven.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/21\/pathetic\/\">Embarcadero or TeamB have seemingly been doing their best to maintain his status as a non-person<\/a>. \u00a0Can this be <strong>A Good Thing<\/strong>\u2122?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think so.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->As I say in comments to another post on this subject, if someone misbehaves in a forum sufficiently to warrant being banned from further participation, then by all means ban them. \u00a0But, with any legal considerations duly taken into account, leave the offending posts up so that people can judge for themselves.<\/p>\n<p>By which I mean, if the posts contain liable language (libel, slander, incitement to racial hatred etc etc) then those parts of the post should be redacted, with a note explaining why. \u00a0But the posts themselves should be left.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">Surely removing them leaves, or rather <strong><em>creates<\/em><\/strong>, room for doubt?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">Unable to judge for themselves whether a post is justifiably deleted, people will polarise into those who fall on the side of defending the &#8220;right&#8221; to free speech <em>without knowing what was said<\/em> and those who will defend the right of the forum moderators to moderate as they see fit <em>without knowing whether the moderation was warranted<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">In any event, the look is not a good one for Embarcadero who appear heavy handed and ungracious.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">Simon Kissel, whatever his previous faults or shortcomings, is if nothing else\u00a0a passionate and enthusiastic participant in a Delphi Community that desperately needs people with passion and enthusiasm.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">The saddest part of this is that what should have been a piece of encouraging news has been swamped by the controversy over Embarcadero&#8217;s behaviour.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">A Delphi Community project that delivered something that many people found to be of great use (though I do not count myself in that group), effectively withered on the vine for the past 6 years &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/crosskylix.untergrund.net\/\">CrossKylix<\/a>. \u00a0That project has now shown signs of life once more, indicating in turn, continuance of life in the Community &#8211; and talent &#8211; that fed that project in the first place.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">But rather than celebrating this we are talking about the behaviour of Embarcadero for the second time in as many weeks.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-size: 1em; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;\">What should have been a good, healthy sign for the Delphi Community has instead highlighted again the concerns that many of us have about those who currently (and I choose my phraseology deliberately here)\u00a0hold Delphi in trust on behalf of that community.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">[Estimated Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes]<\/span><\/span>Simon Kissel &#8211; of CrossKylix fame and Alternative Roadmap infamy &#8211; apparently recently re-appeared in the Delphi forums. \u00a0I say apparently because Embarcadero or TeamB have seemingly been doing their best to maintain his status as a non-person. \u00a0Can this be A Good Thing\u2122? 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