{"id":2537,"date":"2017-02-13T07:25:29","date_gmt":"2017-02-12T19:25:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/?p=2537"},"modified":"2017-02-13T07:25:29","modified_gmt":"2017-02-12T19:25:29","slug":"delphi-for-linux-enterprise-architect-only-arc-imposed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/posts\/2537\/","title":{"rendered":"Delphi for Linux: Enterprise \/ Architect Only + ARC Imposed = &#8230; ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">[Estimated Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\">2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes]<\/span><\/span><p>With the lack of any easily available information from Embarcadero, in yesterday&#8217;s post I had to speculate as to the cost that might be involved with the new Delphi for Linux.  According to comments it seems that I was being overly generous by suggesting that only a Pro Edition of Delphi would be required (so much for people who think I go <em>out of my way<\/em> to criticize).  Unfortunately this does now appear to have been confirmed in the latest &#8220;amnesty&#8221; email from Embarcadero.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/amnesty.jpg?resize=640%2C234&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"234\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2542\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/amnesty.jpg?w=644&amp;ssl=1 644w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/amnesty.jpg?resize=300%2C109&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/amnesty.jpg?resize=380%2C139&amp;ssl=1 380w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>My emphasis added, but this does seem quite clear that the Linux support that is coming is destined only for <strong>Enterprise<\/strong> and <strong>Architect<\/strong> editions.  Which means that your ticket to this particular game is going to cost you a minimum of US$2,400 (the cost of an <em>upgrade<\/em> to <strong>10.1 Berlin Enterprise<\/strong>).  Or US$3,500 for a new user<\/p>\n<p>Anybody already on a subscription is covered of course, but if this is supposed to attract new (or returning) customers then it is the cost of (re)admission that counts.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s almost as if Embarcadero are hearing the people complaining at the prohibitive cost of Delphi &#8230; and deliberately <em>goading<\/em> them.<\/p>\n<p>To make matters worse, as also pointed out in the comments, as things currently stand the Linux support will impose ARC memory management on Delphi for Linux code which at a stroke breaks compatibility with any existing Kylix or FPC based server code already out there.  So not only is the cost for a returning customer seriously increased compared even to the 15 year old Kylix, but any legacy code they hope to maintain in this new iteration of Linux support won&#8217;t even work &#8220;out of the box&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But apparently it all works quite well with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freepascal.org\/\">FreePascal<\/a>.  I haven&#8217;t myself tried the Linux support <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.remobjects.com\/2016\/05\/23\/island\/\">available in the beta&#8217;s of Elements (Oxygene, C# and Swift compilers from RemObjects) since May\/June last year<\/a>, but if anybody has it might be interesting to hear from you.  The Linux support in Elements is still in beta but <em>anyone<\/em> with a subscription has automatic access to the beta builds, which are usually updated every couple of weeks or so.<\/p>\n<p>And I have to mention, again, that I am <em>still <\/em>getting these damned emails from Embarcadero despite having unsubscribed, opted out and otherwise done everything possible to make it abundantly clear that I do not wish to receive any communications from their <del>begging bowl<\/del> marketing department.  Ignoring these directions is actually an offence under New Zealand law &#8211; specifically the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.govt.nz\/diawebsite.nsf\/wpg_URL\/Services-Anti-Spam-Business-Info\">Unsolicited Electronic Messages Act<\/a> &#8211; but Embarcadeo don&#8217;t seem to care about that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">[Estimated Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\">2<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes]<\/span><\/span> With the lack of any easily available information from Embarcadero, in yesterday&#8217;s post I had to speculate as to the cost that might be involved with the new Delphi for Linux. According to comments it seems that I was being overly generous by suggesting that only a Pro Edition of Delphi would be required (so [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":[]},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[292,312,313],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1TKYv-EV","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2531,"url":"https:\/\/www.deltics.co.nz\/blog\/posts\/2531\/","url_meta":{"origin":2537,"position":0},"title":"On Delphi for Linux&#8230;","date":"12 Feb 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"It has been difficult to avoid the fuss being made about the \"new\" Linux support in Delphi. 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