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	<title>Comments on: Delphi 2009 Trial &#8211; First Impressions</title>
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	<description>Keeping Delphi afloat in Aotearoa</description>
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		<title>By: promosyon</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>promosyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jolyon Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolyon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all it wasn&#039;t a review and you shouldn&#039;t have read it as such.  It was - as the post title made very clear - a summary of first impressions, written a day or so after the trial was available.

If my first impressions didn&#039;t cover all the aspects of interest to you, why not download the trial yourself and conduct those investigations you feel most relevant to you?

:)

I might yet write a more comprehensive review, but that will only be possible if/when I&#039;ve used it intensively for a meaningful period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all it wasn&#8217;t a review and you shouldn&#8217;t have read it as such.  It was &#8211; as the post title made very clear &#8211; a summary of first impressions, written a day or so after the trial was available.</p>
<p>If my first impressions didn&#8217;t cover all the aspects of interest to you, why not download the trial yourself and conduct those investigations you feel most relevant to you?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I might yet write a more comprehensive review, but that will only be possible if/when I&#8217;ve used it intensively for a meaningful period.</p>
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		<title>By: Johans Rtyed</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Johans Rtyed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a very poor review.

As a developer, I&#039;m primarily interested in the IDE for reliability, ease of use and speed. You already told me it&#039;s FASTER than 2007 (I use 2007 and that is FAST). What is D2009 like in daily use? 

Installation, dock/undock and project option issues are not a prime concern.

Please import your D2007 apps, use 2009 for a couple of weeks and then write a usability review from the developer perspective.

Better still, do the same with Visual Studio and then do a comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a very poor review.</p>
<p>As a developer, I&#8217;m primarily interested in the IDE for reliability, ease of use and speed. You already told me it&#8217;s FASTER than 2007 (I use 2007 and that is FAST). What is D2009 like in daily use? </p>
<p>Installation, dock/undock and project option issues are not a prime concern.</p>
<p>Please import your D2007 apps, use 2009 for a couple of weeks and then write a usability review from the developer perspective.</p>
<p>Better still, do the same with Visual Studio and then do a comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know many hate the newer Delphis because they believe it’s a copy of Visual Studio. If it helps anyone cope with this phobia, you can think of the newer IDEs as a copy of the Eclipse IDE. There are a number of visual similarities with that IDE too.&quot;

It doesn&#039;t for me, I don&#039;t like the VS IDE and eclipse is even worse!

Just let me have my palette a la D7, its not sooo hard now is it????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know many hate the newer Delphis because they believe it’s a copy of Visual Studio. If it helps anyone cope with this phobia, you can think of the newer IDEs as a copy of the Eclipse IDE. There are a number of visual similarities with that IDE too.&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t for me, I don&#8217;t like the VS IDE and eclipse is even worse!</p>
<p>Just let me have my palette a la D7, its not sooo hard now is it????</p>
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		<title>By: Antipode</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Antipode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for posting this very good review.
Indeed, embarcadero/cg engineers should correct some of the older issues, or have a code contest do the same, rather than filling blogs with information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for posting this very good review.<br />
Indeed, embarcadero/cg engineers should correct some of the older issues, or have a code contest do the same, rather than filling blogs with information.</p>
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		<title>By: Loïs Bégué</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Loïs Bégué</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14 days?
GREAT !!!
That means, we should get some service-pack pretty soon: CodeGear do not want to have so many &quot;unpatched&quot; trials on work for such a long time. Reducing trial period avoids this (potentially high-risk) situation.

Seriously:
I don&#039;t know about any company to update to D2009 before any service-pack is out.

Though, most of the &quot;2009 budgets&quot; (ruling investments i.e. update strategies)  are to be approved until end of November.

And there&#039;s also the &quot;Christmas-gift&quot; business ahead:
after 14 days trials, a frustrated developer could think about asking Santa to kindly provide him with a full license. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14 days?<br />
GREAT !!!<br />
That means, we should get some service-pack pretty soon: CodeGear do not want to have so many &#8220;unpatched&#8221; trials on work for such a long time. Reducing trial period avoids this (potentially high-risk) situation.</p>
<p>Seriously:<br />
I don&#8217;t know about any company to update to D2009 before any service-pack is out.</p>
<p>Though, most of the &#8220;2009 budgets&#8221; (ruling investments i.e. update strategies)  are to be approved until end of November.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s also the &#8220;Christmas-gift&#8221; business ahead:<br />
after 14 days trials, a frustrated developer could think about asking Santa to kindly provide him with a full license. <img src='http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jolyon Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolyon Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anders - I&#039;m not sure if that internal error was related to the invalid email addy or just a coincidence (this post has attracted a lot of traffic and my site doesn&#039;t seem to cope well with high volumes, although whether that&#039;s a problem with WordPress or my hosting provider I don&#039;t know).  Thanks for the heads-up though.  I&#039;ll try to keep an eye on it.

I&#039;m not sure if the VM idea will work.  Unless things have changed the Trial clock starts ticking from the day you request your trial activation serial #, not the day you actually install the trial.  Although I suppose tinkering with the VM system clock would be less disruptive than tinkering with the host machine clock (assuming that the trial expiry trigger can be so easily fooled).


@Rick - As I understand it, the Trial Edition can be &quot;upgraded&quot; to a full installation simply by providing an appropriate license key.  I don&#039;t know how SA works - but if you can get your key before you get your official download, but it might be worth pursuing.


@Bruce - thanks for the poll suggestion.  And apologies - one of your previous comments on this weeks polls got accidentally deleted when I was deleting a rather large number of spam comments (why auto insurance sites want to link to my blog I&#039;ll never fathom!).

I&#039;ve found now that you can create additional configurations via the Configuration Manager, but only for specific projects.  Yet when editing a specific Project&#039;s Options you do not seem able to add new configurations, um options, and you cannot create additional default options.

&quot;Configurations&quot;, &quot;Options&quot; - I still maintain that this whole area is unnecessarily complicated and confusing.


@Kyle - Yes I was aware that a lot of what I had to say - in terms of word count at least - was negative.  Unfortunately there is always more to be said about negative points, not least because they really should be substantiated so that others can understand why I consider them negative - they may not have the same priorities or concerns, so can then decide to ignore my &quot;complaint&quot; if they wish.

Positive observations are - ime - less likely to be picked apart and dissected, but there were some of those too!

:)

I confidently expect to have a lot more positive things to say when I get deeper into the new VCL components and language changes.

:)

As far as IDE &quot;phobia&quot; goes, I don&#039;t think the fact that Eclipse is also Visual Studio-like helps much if/when the problem is that the Visual Studio-style is what is disliked, not the fact that it is Visual Studio.

Interestingly, even among people I know who use Visual Studio, many of them don&#039;t particularly like it.  They like the features and functionality, but not necessarily the IDE itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anders &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure if that internal error was related to the invalid email addy or just a coincidence (this post has attracted a lot of traffic and my site doesn&#8217;t seem to cope well with high volumes, although whether that&#8217;s a problem with WordPress or my hosting provider I don&#8217;t know).  Thanks for the heads-up though.  I&#8217;ll try to keep an eye on it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if the VM idea will work.  Unless things have changed the Trial clock starts ticking from the day you request your trial activation serial #, not the day you actually install the trial.  Although I suppose tinkering with the VM system clock would be less disruptive than tinkering with the host machine clock (assuming that the trial expiry trigger can be so easily fooled).</p>
<p>@Rick &#8211; As I understand it, the Trial Edition can be &#8220;upgraded&#8221; to a full installation simply by providing an appropriate license key.  I don&#8217;t know how SA works &#8211; but if you can get your key before you get your official download, but it might be worth pursuing.</p>
<p>@Bruce &#8211; thanks for the poll suggestion.  And apologies &#8211; one of your previous comments on this weeks polls got accidentally deleted when I was deleting a rather large number of spam comments (why auto insurance sites want to link to my blog I&#8217;ll never fathom!).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found now that you can create additional configurations via the Configuration Manager, but only for specific projects.  Yet when editing a specific Project&#8217;s Options you do not seem able to add new configurations, um options, and you cannot create additional default options.</p>
<p>&#8220;Configurations&#8221;, &#8220;Options&#8221; &#8211; I still maintain that this whole area is unnecessarily complicated and confusing.</p>
<p>@Kyle &#8211; Yes I was aware that a lot of what I had to say &#8211; in terms of word count at least &#8211; was negative.  Unfortunately there is always more to be said about negative points, not least because they really should be substantiated so that others can understand why I consider them negative &#8211; they may not have the same priorities or concerns, so can then decide to ignore my &#8220;complaint&#8221; if they wish.</p>
<p>Positive observations are &#8211; ime &#8211; less likely to be picked apart and dissected, but there were some of those too!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I confidently expect to have a lot more positive things to say when I get deeper into the new VCL components and language changes.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as IDE &#8220;phobia&#8221; goes, I don&#8217;t think the fact that Eclipse is also Visual Studio-like helps much if/when the problem is that the Visual Studio-style is what is disliked, not the fact that it is Visual Studio.</p>
<p>Interestingly, even among people I know who use Visual Studio, many of them don&#8217;t particularly like it.  They like the features and functionality, but not necessarily the IDE itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another poll suggestion.  

What Delphi SKU do you use regularly?
- Architect
- Enterprise
- Professional (includes Turbo professional?)
- Personal/Turbo explorer
- None</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another poll suggestion.  </p>
<p>What Delphi SKU do you use regularly?<br />
- Architect<br />
- Enterprise<br />
- Professional (includes Turbo professional?)<br />
- Personal/Turbo explorer<br />
- None</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce McGee</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can create your own option sets.  Right-click on the Build Configurations.  I can&#039;t remember if it was Nick or David I, but someone showed it off in one of the online demos.

As for the trial period, I agree that it&#039;s too short.  I&#039;d rather see something like 45 or 60 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can create your own option sets.  Right-click on the Build Configurations.  I can&#8217;t remember if it was Nick or David I, but someone showed it off in one of the online demos.</p>
<p>As for the trial period, I agree that it&#8217;s too short.  I&#8217;d rather see something like 45 or 60 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=321&#038;cpage=1#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a PAID SA customer... The more I read about you using an already available &quot;Trial Edition&quot; the more it angers me that I have not received any info to download/install my already paid for full version... very frustrating!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a PAID SA customer&#8230; The more I read about you using an already available &#8220;Trial Edition&#8221; the more it angers me that I have not received any info to download/install my already paid for full version&#8230; very frustrating!!</p>
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